Submitted by nuglife on Thu, 08/19/2010 - 5:06pm
its all just majority opninion
what the mass populus agrees on is accepted as truth
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I came to this thought a year ago and thought I was crazy for a week or so. Yeah man, we're all creating our own realities, and only we (ourselves) can know what is 'true' and 'right,' since they are built out of our experiences and beliefs we have formed throughout our experiences in our time here. And no one can tell us otherwise.
We're gonna change the world, mothufuckas! Seriously, nothing can stop us.
Nothing.
How much stones would a stoner smoke if a stoner could smoke stones?
This is retarded. Fact is fact. Even if no one agrees with it.
(scientific)Facts are (scientific)Facts because the majority of (scientist) people hold them to be true, We can't even prove we exist how the fuck are supposed to figure out other shit.
"I need you like New Orleans needs a drought, like Hitler's father needed to learn to pull out"
Your arguement is retarded.
And yeah I can easily disprove that.
You can prove how clouds are made with scientific fact.
Something isn't fact because a majority of scientists say so. Its fact becuse that is what it is.
Just because you can constantly argue about something does not make you right.
Actually use your brain and stop acting like ohhhh nothing can be proven! Nothing at allllll.
Yeah.
if a bunch of fisheye cameras take pictures of the same thing and agree it has a bloated shape to it, and thats how it acutally is, then its true for them. we are basically those cameras. all humans do not have the ability to see things any other way than we do because we are controlled by the same basic brain.
its not entirely what were looking at that defines itself, its how are brain defines the object.
A lamp is not a lamp because it is a lamp, it is a lamp because we call it a lamp
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You're wrong. we have no concept of what reality truly is and everything around us exists in that reality so we really don't know anything. You think you know what clouds are made of? well what if the entire universe is a computer simulation in a greater existance (which is an actual theory I saw on Through the Wormhole with Morgan Freeman). THen, in theory, clouds wouldn't even be real, and especially not made of anything.
Heres a fact. Humans can breathe oxygen. Not an opinion. Fact my friend
How do you know? seriously how do you know? Have people ever been wrong about a "fact" before? then you don't know. It was a fact that there were 9 planets in the solar system. then it was a fact there were ten. Now it's a fact that there's 8. You must assume that there's a probability, no matter how small, that every fact could be wrong. The only way we could have "facts" is if humans were perfect beings.
you have absolutely no idea what oxygen is. you personally could not show me we our breathing oxygen. we agree as a mass that oxygen is the one on the periodic table that says O with 8 protons and electrons and weighs 16 atomic units(its actually 2 of those together since its O2) . now there is no way you can take a molecule of this air we're breathing and show me that it has those properties i listed
if a person does something like shoot someone and then someone else asks did you do shoot someone; for the shooter to tell what he actually did that would be considered as telling the truth
there's a difference between fact and truth. Facts are observable. It's a fact that grass is green.
Now truth, that's a different story. There's always the truth, and then there's the majority opinion accepted as truth.
true, but only there is no absolute truth, facts are things backed up by observation of science, but only aplicable inside the assumption that what we observe is the truth
but for example in budhism(I think) they believe this world is only an illusion
in the matrix there's the same thing, the truth turns out to not be the truth(aktough inside the matrix, there are still facts)
but I can create my own truth with facts that assume that my truth is the truth, and that is also what religion does, religion creates religious facts that are true if you believe in that religion(because then the religion is your truth), but for an outsider it can be ridiculous
science is the same, but science is acceoted as the truth by a lot of people and it's basis is simple observation, wich is the most logical truth, still debatable, but if you debate it you'll have to turn to a truth that can never be proven(since it doesn't bases on observation)
Its a fact that if i Jump up gravity will bring me back down. Im sure someone who reads this will say some retarded response but a facts do indeed exist, weather you like it or not
"There are no facts, only interpretations."- Friedrich Nietzsche
And addressing all the arguers on here. Its an idea, we're on highdeas. there is no need to argue about wether it is true or not because it is an idea. You have every right to share your own ideas but not to call some one a retard for sharing theirs.
this idea made my brain hurt. No offence, but your theory is completely wrong. Dro_montana stated it best earlier, that what you are thinking about is the difference between truth and fact. Truth is what the majority accepts. Facts are facts. Gravity is a fact. A billion occurances of gravity occur each day. 100%, if something goes up, it will 100% of the time come down. Fact: the earth rotates around the sun. You can not dispute this. It has been observed for decades and it has rotated on the same axis around the sun 100% true.
Fact: we have a heart that pumps blood in our body and we can not survive without it. You can say "oh well how do you know that? what if the heart is just a metaphor" and if you did, you would be an idiot.
Not trying to be mean, but there are millions of proven facts, and if you go around stating your argument, you will not be taken seriously by anyone. Just trying to help you out.
there is such thing as fact and truth.
Fact: I am a male.
Truth: say someone isnt paying attention and rear ends someone and they tell the cops it was there fault they are telling the truth
Who the fuck is teaching you kid? That's the most retarded arguement I've ever heard on this subject... i'd explain myself but all these other people got it get out of middle school
people are talking about 2 different things. Firstly we can not have objective morality and it is true there is no such thing as right or wrong. Secondly there are 2 types of scientific fact, 1 based on the scientific method or empiricism. E.g. having an idea/hypothesis and then testing it repeatidly. This is not a fact we (and scientist) once believed the earth was flat, but now we know otherwise so most of science isn't fact. but there is such things as rational/analytical/deductive truths i.e 1+1=2 if we all agree on the concept of 1 then this sum must always equal 2
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