without the bias of human perception. like just the raw un-filtered universe, no opinions just observation.....does that make any sense at all lol

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Mon, 04/07/2014 - 3:34pm


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Fri, 01/04/2013 - 2:58pm

Probably like nothing we see. If you take away the human perception, you take away the limitations of our senses. Humans can only see a fraction of the wavelengths of color, so seeing the world as it truely is would be very different than how we see it.

 
 
Sun, 04/06/2014 - 7:25pm
Dakayman Says:

I don't think many animals see that much more than we do. Although I know that there are animals that definitely can

 
 
Sun, 04/06/2014 - 8:16pm
 
 
Sun, 04/06/2014 - 11:25pm
Spanki Says:

It's not even just the physical changes though. All our emotional and mental attachments we have on the things around us change our perception on whatever we are looking at. Like even if I went out in the middle of nature, stood on top of a mountain and overlooked nothing but ocean I still wouldn't be able to see it with the emptiness or absolute reality that the writer is talking about. But then like you said it's even more of a mind fuck because not only do we mentally see it different but also physically. It just shows how mother fucking complex the world is. It's so fucking awesome. It really is fucking stupendous

 
 
Tue, 04/08/2014 - 3:45am

we can't even comprehend what everything actually looks like. imagine being able to see atoms while at the same time being able to see galaxies. even attempting to comprehend the fourth dimension is difficult. we are so limited by our 5 senses. that's exactly why i don't like when people think they know exactly what's going on in the universe, whether they are religious or not. we're so insignificant; who are we to even pretend to know what all this is? anyway, sweet highdea man it looks like this site is making a comeback.

 
 
Mon, 01/07/2013 - 7:55pm
 
 
Mon, 01/07/2013 - 7:56pm
 
 
Sun, 04/13/2014 - 3:31pm

(as in a raw universe doesn't exist/is incomprehensible to us anyway, at least in my opinion)

 
 
Fri, 04/04/2014 - 9:50am

kinda like when your trip pin on shrooms

 
 
Tue, 05/06/2014 - 11:46am
high4liife Says:

hahaha thats what i was going to sayy!

 
 
Sun, 11/02/2014 - 12:45am
cobain94 Says:
 
 
Mon, 04/21/2014 - 4:54am
 
 
Sun, 04/06/2014 - 5:06pm

we would probably evolve into a higher consciousness. no pun intended.

 
 
Sun, 04/06/2014 - 10:24pm

Without the bias of perception, we're left with true reality. That's why having convictions and preconceived notions can be so harmful. No human knows true reality so how can we speak definitively about it, much less condemn others for not agreeing? All of our bodies have slight differences, so all of our personal "realities" do as well.

 
 
Mon, 04/07/2014 - 3:48pm

You're right! it is only an observation, we live in this world filled with hypocrite and ignorant human beings, they all need marijuana to help them understand how things can go way smoother in life...

 
 
Mon, 04/07/2014 - 10:10pm
SashaSnail Says:

Life would be so plain. We'd look at the sky and say that's the sky. We'd see flowers and they'd just be flowers. Nothing special. We wouldn't appreciate marijuana either, it'd be just another plant. I don't think we'd even have friends. We'd walk right past each other uninterested in getting to know one another because we're just aimlessly living. We wouldn't see someone and say, hey they look cool lemme go sit next to them. We would look at them and that's it no opinion to form an action.

 
 
Mon, 04/07/2014 - 11:51pm
 
 
Tue, 04/08/2014 - 6:30am

It wouldn't look like anything, what we see is just wave of light entering our eye hitting photosensitive cells which send message to our brain which processes it and creates the image you see. It's just a picture in our minds.
Our senses are just an interpretation of whats out there.

 
 
Tue, 04/08/2014 - 1:31pm
mimsy99 Says:

You'll like constructivism: "the view that reality, and the methods we use to understand it, are man made, subjective constructions rather than an objective reading of events"

 
 
Sat, 04/12/2014 - 11:44pm
Iadriandot Says:

Go take a 5 gram psilocybin trip. That's your answer

 
 
Sun, 04/13/2014 - 9:51am
SirCowbag Says:

Isn't that exactly what allegory of the cave is about?

 
 
Sun, 04/13/2014 - 2:56pm
treeGiant Says:

Envisioning the universe raw.

Assumptionts: We are ourselves, and without that existence we are nothing. We are innately made with bias and opinion that impedes us from completely eliminating the subjective in observation.

I believe that this subjectivity is a significant influence on how we think and see, that the amount of hinderance by subjectivity in viewing the universe raw is very large. How fucking cool would it to have a microscope that can limit the amount of subjectivity in what is observed. To think, can science reach that point?

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Keep on smoking that weed everybody,

The treeGiant

 
 
Mon, 04/14/2014 - 12:36am

They've actually found that there is no way that the world is as we experience it. Even if humans were unbiased in opinion, we still wouldn't see the world the way it actually is. I believe they call the world we experience the phaneron. Something like that. Our senses aren't perfect, so they can't pick up on everything there is around us, and our brains aren't perfect either, so I would assume that it leaves some stuff out that our senses send to it, and by the time we're experiencing it, it's totally different. I mean, we actually see upside down, and then our brain flips it rightside up. I wonder what else gets changed around like that...I wonder if there are beings around that we can't even see. Crazy shit.

 
 
Thu, 04/17/2014 - 8:37pm
IrieLad Says:

Just like Plato's allegory of the cave, there is absolutely no way to view the universe from a non limited perspective. Because there would always be some sort of filter, even "God's eye" would be a filter.

 
 
Tue, 05/06/2014 - 4:21pm

you're referring to ego loss friend, it is possible. Now go and find the answer.

 
 
Sun, 05/25/2014 - 8:33pm

"If the doors of perception were cleansed, everything would appear to a man as it is - infinite." - "The Doors of Perception" A. Huxley

Fucking morons.