imagine if all wars were only fought with martial arts. then instead of the victor being determined by the country with more bombs, it would be determined by the country with more talented martial artists. also maybe instead of killing each other they would fight until one proves their skill over another and the loser must agree to retreat to their base.

however, in a truly civilized world people would wage wars with debates instead. maybe then instead of spending billions on weapons, countries would spend billions on education. instead of the victor being decided by which country kills more of the other countries people, it would be decided by which country was more educated and supporting a more logical argument.

after people ever realized other people can die it disgusts me how anybody every decides to kill another person. after people ever realized other people can be more or less as conscious as themselves it's weird how people still treat each other.



Comments

 
Thu, 02/25/2016 - 3:02pm
JahRoslav Says:

If weapons were never invented, humanity wouldn't have survived the Ice Age, you fucking moron.

 
 
Thu, 02/25/2016 - 6:38pm
cheechaw Says:

Oh my! You tell them, JahRoslav! I have no idea why you're angry, but I'm sure you're right, as Jah walks with you through all events. Jah has clearly bestowed much love on you, brother.

 
 
Thu, 02/25/2016 - 10:32pm

there are other ways to survive than fighting... like running, climbing, hiding, etc. seriously all you need to do to escape a predator is blend into the surroundings and mask your scent. cover yourself with mud and bury yourself with leaves and you become as good as invisible. imagine how advanced our technology would be if we didn't waste so much time, money, and resources on weapons... instead of spending billions to trillions of dollars on wars we could have spent it on education.

*also please don't reply to my highdeas or comments again JahRoslav. i don't care about your opinion.

 
 
Fri, 02/26/2016 - 4:09am
JahRoslav Says:

Yes, please, tell me more about those other ways to survive during the ICE AGE which don't include HUNTING, you fucking retard.

Or, better yet, go to Siberia in the middle of the winter and try surviving there with not even a pointed stick to hunt. I would love to see you slowly starve/freeze to death there: no wood to start a fire, no fur to cover your bare dumb ass, no meat to nourish yourself.

Oh, but you can cover yourself in mud and leaves in -40°C!

Jesus fucking chirst, how fucking dumb are you?

 
 
Fri, 02/26/2016 - 10:07pm

damn you have a bad imagination... how do you think herbivores survived the ice age? we can eat anything an herbivore can eat. also we could huddle together for warmth and live in caves sealed with branches to keep the cold air out. also to be warm people could cover themselves with furs they scavenged from dead animals. you know it's possible to get fur from an animal that died from natural causes too right?

do you really enhance your high by insulting people on the internet? you must be pretty bored usually.

 
 
Sat, 02/27/2016 - 6:12am
JahRoslav Says:

Those herbivores which survived the ice age had thick fur and were fucking huge, so they could dig through snow and find roots to eat or reach to the high trees and eat leaves, you motherfucking idiot!

We can eat anything a herbivore can? Sure, go on, survive on PINE NEEDLES, you fucking dumb shit. That was most of the Indricotherium's ration. Oh wait, we can't, because we're not fucking herbivores and we don't have the fermentation that can process leaves and grass or thick flat teeth that can grade them effectively.

But I mean sure, anything is possible in the Land of Imagination, where physics and biology don't matter.

 
 
Sun, 02/28/2016 - 1:24am

damn, your life must suck to have such a shitty attitude on a forum for stoners.
i wont even bother talking to you again to prevent any more replies.

 
 
Sun, 02/28/2016 - 4:30am
JahRoslav Says:

Is that your final resort, argument ad hominem? Nothing else to say, you fucking faggot?

 
 
Fri, 02/26/2016 - 11:02pm
cheechaw Says:

Yes! You get him, JahRoslav! When I see you kick, bite and scratch, I follow your lead and attack with the pack. I would strangle a baby gazelle with my bare hands for you.

 
 
Sat, 02/27/2016 - 2:30am
 
 
Sat, 02/27/2016 - 6:02am
JahRoslav Says:

We're on education. Ever tried getting some?

 
 
Sat, 02/27/2016 - 6:40pm

either you didn't read my previous comment or you're too uneducated to realize how it's a better solution than killing living animals.

 
 
Sun, 02/28/2016 - 4:54am
JahRoslav Says:

Oh my fucking god, it's not a better solution, you retarded wide eyed hippie fucktard! I just made a dozen arguments why not - arguments, based in reality, and you have the guts to say I didn't read your fucking post? The post to which I replied point by point? And now what, you just can't think of any other reason, so you just have to resort to "if you don't agree with me, then you just don't understand my argument", are you fucking kidding me? You can't make your case, so you gonna just plug your ears and go "lalalala, my argument is better"? Fuck's sake you're amateur. Fuck you.

 
 
Sun, 02/28/2016 - 4:32am
JahRoslav Says:

If there are - again, go survive a winter in Siberia with no meat, no fur and no modern technology. I fucking dare you, I double dare you, motherfucker!

 
 
Sun, 02/28/2016 - 4:36am

your mom would be ashamed of you if she read your comments

 
 
Sun, 02/28/2016 - 4:48am
JahRoslav Says:
 
 
Sun, 02/28/2016 - 4:54am

your mom would be ashamed of you if she read your comments

may as well provide a simple rebuttal to show you how stupid you are

"Those herbivores which survived the ice age had thick fur"
you can find their corpses after they die of natural causes and wear their furs then. if they were so huge then one of their furs would clothe several people.

"and were fucking huge, so they could dig through snow and find roots to eat or reach to the high trees and eat leaves, you motherfucking idiot!"
it's not really difficult to dig through snow.... and people can make shovels to dig for roots. we can also climb trees to get leaves.

"We can eat anything a herbivore can? Sure, go on, survive on PINE NEEDLES, you fucking dumb shit. That was most of the Indricotherium's ration. Oh wait, we can't, because we're not fucking herbivores and we don't have the fermentation that can process leaves and grass or thick flat teeth that can grade them effectively."

we could grind pine needles or other kinds of leaves with rocks and mix them with water for the nutrients. also i did a small amount of research and it is thought people likely ate "greens, roots, tubers, seeds, nuts, and fruits". it doesn't require a whole lot of intelligence to be able to plant crops with all the mentioned food sources. i'm sure our bodies would eventually adapt to an herbivore diet if needed. we could also eat eggs for protein.

"But I mean sure, anything is possible in the Land of Imagination, where physics and biology don't matter."

almost anything is possible in the land of physics and biology also.

the problem you have is you think your smart so you're blind to your ignorance.

 
 
Sun, 02/28/2016 - 5:25am
JahRoslav Says:

Wait, I think I get it. You're from a warm country and you never felt what -40C feels like, right?

So you think that it's just a bit chilly, not every inch of your body screaming in agony from the penetrating cold. So you, in your Imagination Land, think that you can just walk a cold like this off, and hug, like it's a windy summer night, and go around searching for animals that died "from natural causes".

You also obviously never tried digging through the frozen ground, otherwise you would know that it's hard as rock, and you wouldn't be able to dig through it with a primitive wooden shovel, not to mention that during the ICE AGE the Earth was covered with not just soft snow, but hardened ICE.

And by the way, how the fuck do you make a shovel with no tools? THAT WAS YOUR ORIGINAL COMMENT YOU FUCKING RETARD!!! How will you make a SHOVEL with nothing to CUT???? HOW???!?!?!?! A shovel, mind you, that can miraculously dig through a thick layer of ice and frozen soil, but cannot be used to kill anyone, because, you know, no weapons.

Which discontinues your other assumption about farming during the ice age - I mean, forget that you can't fucking farm in below zero temperatures, how were they supposed to farm with no cutting tools? You ever tried growing anything besides fucking pot, if even that?

And yea, sure, go on for a week eating pine needles, I want to see that.

When right wingers say 'libertard', they imagine you. You have no fucking idea of literally anything that you're talking about right now. You don't know how the fucking world works. Sit down, shut up, and listen what you're told, kid. You might learn a few things.

 
 
Sun, 02/28/2016 - 5:38am

The whole point of the question was to use your imagination. You were asked what if. If there weren't tools in Siberia during the ice age, everyone would've died. fuck Siberia. I'm sure the cavemen closer to the equator near current Florida were better off. But WHAT IF some nomad tribe learned to survive the ice age hunting with their hands? This question has such fun potential and your ruining it by trying to be a know-it-all.

 
 
Sun, 02/28/2016 - 5:57am
JahRoslav Says:

Well, then there IS a nomadic specie that survived the Ice Age in warmer regions of the planet, learned to hunt with their bare hands, and never developed complex tools.

They're called chimpanzees. :D

 
 
Sun, 02/28/2016 - 6:02am

But bro the question wasn't about tool or clothes or even prehistoric vegan diets. It was about weapons. Of course humans need tools to survive, to built, and to eat. A farming hoe doesn't have to be a weapon. Tools are what put humans on top. But weapons were made mainly for other humans after the ice age. What if the humans decided that early that tools were only for maintenance and not killing? Killing could be resevered for fists or hunting with fists. I think that the ice age killed most Siberians anyway. WTF were they doing in north Asia during an ice age anyway? Most nomad tribes would've moved south or died, weapons or not. But what if the only tribes left after the ice age only killed hand to hand? WHAT IF? I had to restick this to the more relevant reply too. I put this on the wrong one. And chimps were already there. Before and after. There could still be chimps after a weaponless ice age. There were chimps before. And there were chimps after.

 
 
Sun, 02/28/2016 - 6:11am
JahRoslav Says:

Yea, they were already there, and they're still here, they didn't evolve into self-conscious beings any further than they were, because they found the same niche that you're describing, and they stayed there - warm climate, the most primitive of tools, no weapons, no agriculture.

So there's your answer. If we didn't develop any weapons, we'd be where the chimps are today.

 
 
Sun, 02/28/2016 - 5:25am

if we never needed weapons, then by 2016, with all the training and techniques and information passed down thru hundreds of centuries of fighting and surviving without weapons or tools, humans would be on a saiyan level. I think we'd all just be strong as fuck because it would be necessary to survive on earth and hunt with our bare hands. And without weapons in wars, maybe wed have more libraries and shrines and temples and hidden ancient gems to pass on secrets that were lost to wars centuries ago. Shit we'd probably still have magic around. Life today would be like the coolest anime you've ever watched. On the flipside, how cool would it be if we still used swords in the modern day instead of firearms? We'd have lightsabers by now. Damn im high...

 
 
Sun, 02/28/2016 - 5:36am
JahRoslav Says:

It's still his mind control trip, man. Fucking nanny state ideology.

"What if humans couldn't possibly think that shoving a sharp thing into someone makes them bleed and die?"

He comes up with these "highdeas" from time to time, like "Hey, what if humans couldn't physically think 'bad thoughts'?". He does that, he gets PWNd, he gets pissed off and runs away crying, and in some time, the cycle repeats.

 
 
Sun, 02/28/2016 - 5:56am

But bro the question wasn't about tool or clothes or even prehistoric vegan diets. It was about weapons. Of course humans need tools to survive, to built, and to eat. A farming hoe doesn't have to be a weapon. Tools are what put humans on top. But weapons were made mainly for other humans after the ice age. What if the humans decided that early that tools were only for maintenance and not killing? Killing could be resevered for fists or hunting with fists. I think that the ice age killed most Siberians anyway. WTF were they doing in north Asia during an ice age anyway? Most nomad tribes would've moved south or died, weapons or not. But what if the only tribes left after the ice age only killed hand to hand? WHAT IF?

 
 
Sun, 02/28/2016 - 6:04am
JahRoslav Says:

Ok, first of all, first weapons were developed during the Ice Age, they were stone weapons - a knife, a spear, an axe and a club.

Second, why would they go to the extra effort of killing with bare hands when they had tools? The whole point of a tool is to save energy and time, which could then be used for other survival activities.

And no, the Ice Age did not kill all the Siberians, there are a) archaeological proof of that, b) there are the Chukchas, the Kalmyks, the Buryats and other northern endangered peoples which wouldn't have been there if their ancestors weren't, so your assumption is made without you even checking the facts.

 
 
Sun, 02/28/2016 - 6:22am

UGH oh my god fuck the ice age. This question is about weapons. If after everybody dropped their weapons after the fucking ice age, what do you think the world would look like if every culture adapted hand to hand martial arts or any other form of weaponless combat?

 
 
Sun, 02/28/2016 - 6:41am

for example the Wudang style seen in Crouching Tiger Hidden Dragon involved some swordplay and weaponry, but it also attributed weightlessness similar to FLYING. A martial art that teaches skills not seen by humans today. buddist monks train their lives to push the limits of the human body's...idk, everything. reflex, toughness, speed, strength.... imagine if these skills were just passed down thru centuries and taught on a larger scale? if the ninja had passed down their techniques to stealth? if one could be taught how to adjust core body temperature or withstand agonizing pain thru training as a part of daily life? the potential of the human body is amazing and without weapons, I think wed be that much closer to unlocking secrets of the untapped parts of our brains.

 
 
Sun, 02/28/2016 - 7:31am
JahRoslav Says:

As to your assumption about 'supernatural abilities'. Fuck's sake, man, you gonna go the Uri Galler route? Fucking seriously? Might as well apply for James Randi challenge while you're at it.

All that 'human potential' bullshit from the 70's was debunked hundreds of times, science never confirmed the slightest of evidence for such abilities in humans under controlled conditions.

And, here's a revelation - Crouching Tiger Hidden Dragon IS A FUCKING MOVIE!!! REAL WORLD DOESN'T WORK LIKE THAT!!!!

In real world, what you see (feel, touch, taste, smell) is pretty much what you get. If you assume ninja skills from fucking Naruto exist, might as well fantasize about what it would've been like if fucking magic was real.

 
 
Sun, 02/28/2016 - 7:14am
JahRoslav Says:

Why would they do that? No, seriously, what reason would they have for this?

The first guy to do that would be clubbed and that would be the end of it.
You know the expression 'never bring a knife to a gun fight'?

There's a reason for it.

The culture with more advanced tools will always prevail over the less equipped ones. This happened to the colonized Africa, this happened to the Native Americans. This is how natural fucking selection works - the most equipped ones survive, the less equipped ones die.

And besides, even if complex weapons were never developed - THERE'S FUCKING ROCKS LYING ALL AROUND THE PLACE. It doesn't take a genius to take one and bash an empty hippie head inside with it.

 
 
Sun, 02/28/2016 - 7:48am

What kind of douche gets on highdeas just to bash every answer and question? can you stop being a dick and give an opinion to the question? I was talking about martial arts. Not Crouching tiger Hidden dragon in particular. you cant deny the existence of ancient combat forms. Stop looking for logic in a highdea, the question was for fun and nobody else will answer it if you're trolling your facts all over it. Its a What If. Go fuck up yahoo answers or something.

 
 
Sun, 02/28/2016 - 7:56am
JahRoslav Says:

So, in other words, what it would've been like if we were a totally different specie on a different planet with a different mindset, and no logic.

Well then shit would've been a whole lotta different I suppose. Are you having any fun yet?

I don't understand why there shouldn't be any logic in a highdea, and why I should step down to your level of stupidity to have fun. I'm stimulating my brain to understand life, not to be more delusional about it. If you want to dumb yourself up - that's your choice, but don't expect me to respect it or partake in it.

I have stated my opinion on many possibilities for the hypothetical situation that you have described. If you reject them all simply because you don't like them - that's your choice, but if you can't make your case any stronger than mine, don't blame me for "trolling my facts" all over it, the facts are not mine, they're just facts.

If you want to live in fantasy land - fine, knock yourself out, just don't ask me to not call you stupid for that.

 
 
Sun, 02/28/2016 - 7:58am

The whole point of the question is to fantasize about the 'What if'. Its all hypothetical. You're trying to tell me why the 'What If' couldn't happen, but it never did happen. That's why its a "What If" question. Use your imagination. Nobody clicked the question for a fact-driven history lesson.

 
 
Sun, 02/28/2016 - 11:08am
JahRoslav Says:

Yes, because who needs facts, let's just make shit up for the sake of it!
Oh, it's so much more fun than an actual thoughtful argument!

Let's imagine that if people never developed weapons they would fucking fly around, and fart out gold, and have 2 feet long dicks!
Why the fuck not!

Logic bad, imagination good!

 
 
Sun, 02/28/2016 - 11:46pm

JahRoslav do you not have the ability to recognize negativity? do you not notice that it's all you're spreading? if any sane person read every comment they would notice every single one of your comments involves negativity. this is not a historical debate forum, it is a forum for stoners, which is a group that includes many people who like to think differently. you have a very large ego in the way of making anything enjoyable to discuss. all you ever say is "i'm right, you're wrong dumbass" in a variety of different words.

please simply do us all a favor and never reply to my highdeas or comments again.

 
 
Mon, 02/29/2016 - 7:26am
JahRoslav Says:

I don't know what 'negativity' is, because I don't speak hippie gobbledygook, but I sure recognize stupidity when I see it.

Like, for example, when a retard says something retarded and gets called out on it, but has no willingness to admit he was fucking wrong, he's always gonna cry "Waaa, y u bein a hater?" and play the victim card.

Or when said retard thinks that point by point counter-arguments to his retarded shit are "just saying I'm right you're wrong in a VARIETY OF WORDS". If this isn't going full retard - I don't know what is. It's as if you've read a newspaper and someone asked you what it says and you'd reply: "Well, all it says is shit happened today in a variety of words".

Or when still the same retard uses a copout of the "You just don't understand my argument/You just too stupid for me" variety when he can't coherently make a case for his position, but still wants to feel as if he's right.

I use strong language when talking to you, because this isn't my first brush with you. You have a history of doing that on this forum, for which I despise you. You are one of the most uneducated, ignorant, incoherent and egocentric people I have ever met online -- and you have the NERVE to call people "stupid" or "silly" or telling them they're "lacking imagination" when they disagree with you and simply tell you why they do so? And you don't understand why I speak to you in this way, you pathetic twat? Fuck you.

For the last time: if you don't want to be called stupid - STOP POSTING STUPID SHIT!
It is THAT SIMPLE.

 
 
Mon, 02/29/2016 - 4:51pm

your perspective is so far from the truth it's pathetic

 
 
Mon, 02/29/2016 - 12:24am

thanks for the replies worth reading Kloud. i agree with you also, we might not even need to evolve to advance a lot since we have so much untapped potential. the main things that get in the way of progress have been war and greed.

another hypothetical, what if there were no such thing as money, and no such thing as greed? everybody would want to help each other get all they need and want.