being only a second-generation brit, i've gotten a lot of abuse from british nationalists (you know the kind, 'england for the english' and all of that bollocks) in my time, not to mention the multiple beatings my dad's had to suffer just for standing on soil that some people thought having too much melanin disqualifies you from standing on (yea that's literally what their entire argument is, by the way, when you boil it down) .. .. and we've handled it, took it on the chin, and people in general are alright with our presence, my dad's paid taxes to the uk government since 1967, that makes him pretty british in my eyes.. .. but anyway.. yea, these are really only fringe elements of society, but there are still those (e.g. bnp, nf, &c.) who think that britain would be better off if there were only anglo saxons who lived here.. here's why that's bullshit:

1. not my main point, but it's worth mentioning- purebreed english people don't exist.. french, vikings, romans, germans, they've all been here, britain's always been a mongrel nation and the majority of british people today are descended from immigrants

2. alright. so you always hear about these fringe elements going 'pakis are stealing our culture'.. the way i see it, immigrants are the only people preserving british culture.. there may be more mosques and gurdwaras around, but dig it, you'll see the EDL going 'we don't your mosque in our country', but were they supporting my town when we were protesting the new tesco that's weaseled its way in, were they fuck, they were sat at home mumbling racial epithets to themselves.. a mosque won't hurt anybody (unless it's run by a violent fundamentalist, but that's a completely different argument, we'll deal with that later if you want), but this bastard of a megalith that's showed up on my doorstep, tesco, it's destroying my town, you should see my high street since it's been here, used to be dead busy, now every other shop is boarded up with 'to let' signs stuck to them .. where were the edl or bnp to stop this happening? cowards and hypocrites with their heads up their arses and their priorities completely backwards.. right, that's the first thing i wanted to say, and secondly, i've been (in leisure time, i.e. this only counts as anecdotal evidence, but i think it's enough for the purposes of a highdea) comparing towns and suburbs with a large west and/or east indian population against those where it's mostly white people, and, with no exceptions, the towns where it's mostly what i'll call for simplicity's sake 'brown people' have no tescos, or asdas, or morrisons's or sainsburys, it's all local butcher's, local grocer's, local takeaway, local newsagent, local this and local that, local money spent in local businesses so it stays in the country, not in some offshore bank like in my town now that tesco's here sucking us dry .. yea, to reiterate, immigrants aren't the problem, we're the ones (well i have no part in it, but you know what i mean) keeping the british economy afloat, to whatever extent we've managed it

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Sat, 03/24/2012 - 1:53pm

a only read the first bit about getn abuse. a feel for u m8 theres no place for that in britan i`m white ,16 and scottish and a fuckin hate rasisim toward colour as for religion i think its all bollocks

 
 
Thu, 04/12/2012 - 8:22am
bakayurei Says:

whether there's something behind religions or not is a different question, but we can all agree, i think, that strict dogmatism is bollocks.. but anyway, discrimination's discrimination and it's shit, whether it's a muslim trying to tell white people they're going to hell and he's going to carry them there himself or an EDL member talking about how he's worried that muslims are going to try to force shariah law on britain .. yea .. .. anyway that wasn't my basic point, my point was that if anything's wrong with britain, it's not immigrants since it's immigrants who are pretty much single handedly keeping britain afloat.. if anything's the problem with britain, it's the major supermarkets outcompeting the worthier businesses and putting all of our money in island banks so they don't have to pay the crown any taxes.. that's the problem

and anyway, this isn't really relevant to my basic point but i'll mention it anyway, the 'english' (not counting celts and britons and those) aren't anglo-saxon at all.. or if they are then it's only to a very minor extent.. the english are spaniards from ages ago, and anglo-saxon blood makes up maybe 1% of the english gene pool .. nobody really has any ancestral claim to these islands

 
 
Mon, 08/27/2012 - 2:30pm

I'm Mexican, first gen born in the U.S, but I have strong Spanish blood. I've always wanted to live abroad, maybe the U.K for a bit, Paris, and so on. But seeing how bad it's getting everywhere I think I'll just go to Canada... There's too much bullshit in the world..

 
 
Mon, 08/27/2012 - 2:50pm
bakayurei Says:

wouldn't that make you 2nd generation, like i am? .. unless that's what you call it in the US.. like the way you call the ground floor of buildings the 1st floor haha .. .. and yea, there's racism everywhere (the national front for instance, a very racist group, have started rearing their ugly head again here, they were supposed to be long dead.. then there's the BNP and the EDL who i've mentioned up there), but there are good people everywhere.. no reason not to go where you want, live your life on your terms, you know.. anyway you wouldn't be considered an immigrant if you're just moving around digging different places .. do it.. i've been meaning to take a train trip around europe for years now, but i haven't been able to save any money.. i'll get to it eventually tho, i'm sure

 
 
Fri, 09/07/2012 - 1:41pm

interesting to hear about problems another country has rather than just america. i very seldom see things like this.

 
 
Fri, 09/07/2012 - 4:12pm
jake_ Says:

yeah me neither. However this situation sounds strikingly similar to what happened to the US. Money being concentrated in the hands of a wealthy few

 
 
Fri, 09/07/2012 - 4:59pm
bakayurei Says:

you know that episode of south park, 'something walmart this way comes' .. it's the same wherever you go in the world, where a big supermarket's moved in to some town.. all the shops shut down so nobody has anywhere to get their stuff except one shop, all the jobs go so everyone has to work at the one big supermarket .. it's a hideous thing.. and is the main reason why i think that there should always be some level of government regulation on big businesses.. because competition's a brilliant thing, as long as it's keeping the quality of our goods high .. but the only reason shops like tesco and walmart are able to outcompete the rest is because they're able to afford lower prices than anyone else .. and that's not what competition's supposed to do for us

 
 
Sun, 09/09/2012 - 9:23pm
shootor123 Says:

Limited regulations, yes. However, our government is WAY too big right now and has its hands in WAY too many aspects of our lives. For anyone who is reading this and lives in the US, do yourself a favor and research Ron Paul. He is the only politician that I know of that uses the Constitution to dictate his policies. We have over 10,000,000 people on welfare right now. Around 50% of our citizens don't pay any income tax, yet people think that taxing the wealthy will fix our economy. The fact is, it just won't work (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=661pi6K-8WQ). Also, if you look at the income statement of our government, we take in about $1,200,000,000,000 less in taxes than we spend. Most of this spending is due to entitlement programs, which are funded with our tax dollars. Because we can't fund all of these programs, the government has to borrow from other countries, mainly China. You cannot legislate the poor into prosperity by legislating the wealth out of prosperity. You make your own bed in this country, meaning we need to take personal responsibility for our actions and not expect the government to provide us with wealth. Also, the government cannot give to anybody anything that the government does not first take from someone else. So no, I don't want to be taxed more heavily to provide illegal immigrants with healthcare and housing when they pay ZERO in income tax themselves. WAKE UP, AMERICA!

 
 
Mon, 09/10/2012 - 3:44pm
bakayurei Says:

you should re-check your facts .. for a start, when a lot of people (especially right-wing commentators) talk about 'welfare', they also include things that don't belong under that label at all.. what they're really talking about is income security.. right, so there are 6 categories that can be lumped into the 'income security' group, which even when you treat them all as the same thing, they still only come to 12% of the entire federal budget .. quite a large chunk, but nowhere near 'most' of it .. right.. so anyway there's general and federal retirement and disability insurance, unemployment, housing assistance, food assistance, and 'other', the rest .. now.. to claim retirement and disability insurance, you have to have been a government employee to begin with (or have worked in certain other industries in the private sector), and to claim unemployment, you have to have worked and paid income tax for a certain amount of time to begin with.. these three categories make up about half of the pie.. the rest, proper 'welfare', that is food assistance, housing assistance, and 'other' (the largest slice of the pie, to be fair) cost the US government .. where is it.. $284bn, in 2009, $191bn of which went to the poor.. 2009's deficit was $1.4trillion .. it wouldn't help much if the US government stopped paying for poor peoples' survival

however- um.. i was about to say that the real solution would be to stop going off on expensive wars.. but since you're already a ron paul supporter, you probably also believe that that's something that needs doing, so i won't waste my time preaching to the converted

 
 
Mon, 09/10/2012 - 6:08pm
shootor123 Says:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EW5IdwltaAc I like debating with you, but I think this video shows that big government is NOT the answer. They call Libertarians "freedom-loving" like it's a bad thing. We're ALL supposed to love being free people. If there is another financial collapse, our government will use the fear of the people to become a tyrannical government basically controlling every aspect of our lives. Since you call me "converted," I assume you're a fellow Libertarian (to some extent?), so smoke on, brother!

 
 
Tue, 09/11/2012 - 10:14am
bakayurei Says:

i'm not exactly a libertarian.. ideally i think fascism or something like it would be the most efficient form of government, but it's never worked well in practice, it's just a good idea.. but anyway, i'm more of a socialist, i don't think it's right that people should live only for themselves, we live in societies and it's everybody's job to keep that society alive.. i believe in regulation of big businesses, to avoid monopolies, and i also believe in keeping the poor alive, since that's the whole point of government to begin with, to provide the governed with security in their lives.. .. but i do think that ron paul has some excellent ideas, especially as far as america is concerned, and is just a great bloke anyway.. america's quickly becoming a cryptofascist state, and paul knows exactly how to start reining that back in.. one of the few politicians i truly respect

 
 
Tue, 09/11/2012 - 2:27am

Expensive war well worth it. Nobody fucks with America. We give that shit back ten fold. And then some.

 
 
Tue, 09/11/2012 - 10:14am
bakayurei Says:

some kid slaps a bigger lad then runs, and the bigger lad goes around battering and mugging other kids who had nothing to do with the original 'attack' .. you haven't given anything 'back' to anyone

 
 
Tue, 09/11/2012 - 11:40am
shootor123 Says:

Vapir, the war on terror isn't even a real war. It's an undeclared, illegal war. And our government is using the fear we have of terrorists to take away our civil liberties one at a time. Open your eyes. How would you feel if some foreign nation had soldiers with AK47s walking around your neighborhood to force their way of life on you? That's essentially what we are doing overseas. That's why a lot of countries hate America.

 
 
Tue, 09/11/2012 - 11:57am
bakayurei Says:

cheney'd been planning to go back to iraq since at least 1999, probably afghanistan as well, since then.. his oil companies had been losing money and he wanted to get his hands on arab and caspian oil as quickly as he could so halliburton wouldn't have to go bankrupt .. it took so long to find osama because they hadn't even looking for him in all that time

 
 
Tue, 09/11/2012 - 1:20pm
DaSein Says:

Not only that but we have unmanned drone military planes routinely cruising over Yemen and Pakistan and firing missiles that kill, to the tone of what Pakistani researchers estiamte, 98% civilians. We think this is going to eradicate terrorist organisations? How do you think America would react if China was flying robots in our skies killing our innocent friends and neighbors?

 
 
Tue, 09/11/2012 - 8:18pm

Well i like to still try and think our country is a good one. And I'm sad if we aren't. So I guess my eyes are closed with hope.

 
 
Wed, 09/12/2012 - 10:49am
bakayurei Says:

your country's alright, any american i've ever spoken to has been a genuinely good person .. it's the creeping cryptofascism that's the problem with the country.. your government .. the government behind your government, tho god knows what that is, or if it's even a single thing

 
 
Tue, 09/11/2012 - 11:38pm
bmac252 Says:

I agree that big corporations have a rather nasty tendency to drive small business into bankruptcy and this is sad and regrettable. In fact, one could say that it is immoral. However, as cliche as it is, that is capitalism. What people (generally liberals, although take note I am NOT a conservative, rather a moderate) always happen to leave out is what happens when Walmart is able to drive costs down.
Think about this in a utilitarian way, where the ends justify the means. If 200 small business employees are laid off because a small business goes under due to Walmart undercutting them that is bad, no doubt. However, all the consumers (of which there are plenty more of than just these 200 employees) are now able to buy good that they need (food, clothing, etc) at a lower price than they had previously paid to their small businesses. Now you'd have to run a case by case cost-benefit analysis to analyze whether or not the loss of these 200 employees is more of a detriment to the local economy than the numerous small savings consumers made (yay microeconomics! :D ), but I think it's safe to say that more often the community ends up saving more money, which they can then put back into the economy elsewhere, than not thanks to Walmart's savings. Sorry about the essay guys, I like debating when I'm ripped.
P.S. If you ask me the real issue with Walmart is it's monopsonies (look this up at at http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Monopsony third sentence describes it all). This is where Walmart really hurts people but nobody thinks about it because it's behind the scenes. So sure, they might force a small business to lay off 200 people, but what about the company which has to sell their good to them? All Walmart has to do is say they want to buy it for less money and they have no choice but to abide or lose their biggest seller and risk bankruptcy. As a result, this company, which can be either big or small, will lose profits which can directly affect workers and their jobs/salaries. How's that for playing devil's advocate?

 
 
Wed, 09/12/2012 - 10:46am
bakayurei Says:

price isn't everything, you have to keep the quality of your goods up as well .. this is a different discussion, it has little to do with economics, but it's still important, and it's one other reason why you need lots of competing businesses, so the quality of your goods can stay high .. .. also, yes that is the nature of capitalism, and it's a massive flaw in the system that that necessarily has to happen, which is why i think that there has to be some level of regulation on big businesses, to ensure that smaller ones can keep competing .. .. and i get what you mean about people being able to keep more money to spend, and that was one of the reasons why tesco managed to monopolize my town, because everybody wanted some money left over at the end of the week .. but i reckon (and this is just me saying something that's come off the top of my head, don't know what the numbers are) that there's a lot more money being sent to offshore banks than there is left in our pockets

as for your last point.. hm.. yea, they've got their claws well and truly in our world haven't they? and that seems to me like another reason why monopolies shouldn't be allowed to come in to being, which is why big businesses need reining in

 
 
Sun, 09/09/2012 - 3:25pm
DrBong Says:

1) The british royal family (arguably the epitomy of britishness) are directly descendent from german and greek households. The north-east of england has words and phrases taken from viking language from our early settlers, and our engineering and ship building industry were both helped incredibly by the migrant middle eastern workers, whether the BNP, EDL or NF like it or not.

2) Sorry to hear about tesco fucking up your town, I live in a pretty big town with an ASDA, Tesco, Morrisons and a Sainsburys within about 3 miles of eachother, and a hell of a lot of take-aways, so theres not much to add to be able to fuck it up for the local stores. The local stores don't seem to be doing so bad over here, god knows how.

In response, I feel as if I should apologize about how my country has treated you, it's narrow minded, ignorant and racist to say the least.
We belong to one of the most ethnically diverse nations on earth, I just wish people could see it that way more often.

All the best.

 
 
Mon, 09/10/2012 - 10:11am
bakayurei Says:

oi, less of that, it's my country as well hahaha .. .. but i forgive you .. and yea, that's right, where would e.g. leeds be without the indians

 
 
Sun, 09/09/2012 - 9:07pm

stopped reading after i read brit. Im preapared for all your negatism so go ahead

 
 
Sun, 09/09/2012 - 10:51pm
Smokey707 Says:
 
 
Mon, 09/10/2012 - 12:41pm
bakayurei Says:
 
 
Wed, 09/12/2012 - 7:51pm
shootor123 Says:
 
 
Mon, 09/10/2012 - 3:55am

It's like the late Mary Poppins said, "a spoon full of prescription cough syrup helps the racism go down"

 
 
Mon, 09/10/2012 - 3:57pm
 
 
Tue, 09/11/2012 - 10:27am

There's not much to get, I have a tendency of spewing random bullshit at odd intervals. And by odd intervals, I mean constantly.

 
 
Tue, 09/11/2012 - 11:28am

hahaha nice, your comments always make me laugh dude.

 
 
Tue, 09/11/2012 - 10:15am
bakayurei Says:

o yea, and thanks everyone who thought this was worth the read

 
 
Tue, 09/11/2012 - 10:48am

lol..... bollocks ....................... lol.......

 
 
Tue, 09/11/2012 - 11:28am
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Tue, 09/11/2012 - 12:00pm
bakayurei Says:

depends how you're defining the term.. some people have a smoke, then come on here and type up an idea for a new technology or something.. i think about things when i smoke, work them out as well as i can, then type up my thoughts later on

 
 
Tue, 09/11/2012 - 6:49pm
swisher83 Says:

i feel for you man. i live in the US but racist shit just disgusts me. hope your situation gets better