this isn't an idea at all, but i thought it was quite beautiful, when i realized it, and maybe some of you will too.. so i was thinking about flowers earlier, and i suddenly realized what they are: okay so how the world works is, in very simple terms, the sun puts his energy on to the surface of our planet, which then picks it up in solar batteries that we call plants.. then animals eat those plants, and other animals eat those animals (then mushrooms and insect larvae eat them when they die, and so on) .. so this means that plants have ended up with the shit end of the deal, having to work hard for the survival of animals .. they have to gather energy, not only for their own use but for animals' as well.. they have to use it to build their bodies, only to end up having wasted their lives building themselves to be eaten by something .. and on top of that, they have to look after themselves, stop themselves getting eaten, and most importantly, to make sure their pollen ends up somewhere useful before they're dead .. .. but what some kinds of plant do is, they channel some of the energy that they'd taken from the sun (held in the form of burnable sugar) and turn it into nectar.. and once you've realized how clever a move this was, you'll never look at flowering plants the same way again .. because what that made possible was the ability for plants to then employ animals, i.e. literally pay them to do their work for them, to help them pollinate others of their kind.. a sort of grand, planet-wide exosymbiosis.. bees have two masters, really- their own queens, and then all the flowering plants of the world .. how amazing is that, plants employing bees and flies, and even birds .. it's even more fantastic than the caterpillars who employ ants as bodyguards, acting simultaneously as emperor and cow

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Sun, 04/01/2012 - 5:42pm
PapersWin Says:

Did I just get so high that I teleported to biology class?

Mon, 04/02/2012 - 11:20am
bakayurei Says:

i was never very good at biology in school, but once i started reading about it on my own time, i started to have almost religious feelings about it .. it's almost psychedelic, once you start to see the interconnectedness of all things.. and the more you learn, the more beauty you'll start to notice when you're out and about in nature

Mon, 04/02/2012 - 9:23pm
zinomerc Says:

true that man. i used to love plant biology cuz it was so complex and interesting how it just takes in all that nutrient from the ground and sunlight via photosynthesis. and to look at these big ass trees, or to smoke a little bit of this bud. how did it form all that size? how did nature provide us with awesome little combustible crystals?

Tue, 07/03/2012 - 6:56pm
graevans13 Says:

plants dont do all the work, think about it, animals die and enrich the soil from which the plants grow, which then feeds the animals which die and feed the plants. It is the beautiful cycle that is Gaia.

Wed, 07/04/2012 - 9:10am
bakayurei Says:

the stuff they're made of is also the stuff we're made of, sure, but all the energy in all life forms on our planet comes from the sun, and has to be gathered up by plants, and as far as that goes, plants do do all the work, is what i meant

Sun, 04/01/2012 - 5:51pm
zinomerc Says:
Mon, 04/23/2012 - 10:16pm
canabinoso Says:
Mon, 07/02/2012 - 8:10pm

there are no plants.. or animals.. everything is just one thing, trying to keep itself alive. But we as humans are so stupid, we think just because things arent attached to eachother they are not the same. All is one, ask the Dalai Lama

Tue, 07/03/2012 - 9:51am
bakayurei Says:

i don't think i've mentioned that idea in the above post (i know it'd just take a bit of reading to find out, but i'm far too lazy to do that) but that's exactly what i think as well, every organism is just another cell in the body of the great Organism, Life, and the predator/prey relationship is her blood stream, keeping everything flowing around and around

Tue, 07/03/2012 - 6:16pm
BlueVeins Says:

When the Dalai Lama orders a slice of pizza does he ask for one with everything?

Wed, 07/04/2012 - 9:12am
bakayurei Says:

hahahaha! .. this reminds me of this hilarious interview with the dalai lama that i once saw on the news .. no.. not on the news, on a comedy news-based clip show, that was it.. wait let me see if i can find the clip, better than describing it to you

found it

Tue, 07/03/2012 - 4:21pm
joeykins34 Says:

I have no fucking idea what I just read.

Tue, 07/03/2012 - 5:30pm
bakayurei Says:

hahaha! thanks for the vote anyway.. .. but basically, the idea is that plants started putting flowers on themselves so they could hire animals to work for them and at the same time bribe them to not eat them .. and i think it's fantastic, how tightly woven our planet's biome is, and it's been made this way thru purely unconscious processes.. .. i believe in god (not jehovah), but i'm not sure which idea i like more, the one where there's something that's thought everything thru about how our world should work, in all of its complexity, or the alternative idea, that it's all just .. happened

Tue, 07/03/2012 - 6:19pm

thismade me start a garden in my yard. wish me luck!

Tue, 07/03/2012 - 7:03pm
csammy420 Says: is my flower highDEA, check it out. i enjoyed your thoughts bakayurei

Wed, 07/04/2012 - 12:28am
fdsh Says:
Wed, 07/04/2012 - 12:44am

i wonder if the plants could communicate to eachother and look at plants being eaten or ripped up by humans as genocide or something...maybe

Wed, 07/04/2012 - 9:16am
bakayurei Says:

doubtful.. .. but then again, there's this genus of desert plant, ambrosia, where the individuals seem to know who they are and can recognize where they end and the rest of the world begins .. self awareness in plants .. so obviously we don't know exactly how consciousness works, if it can be exhibited in plants as well as in animals.. .. hm.. but for the most part, i'd say plants are pretty much just blind machines .. even more so than, e.g. worms