our eyes are able to scan these different symbols and construct the scenarios and concepts they describe in our mind
and these concepts have the power to twist our emotions and make us cry and laugh and wow reading is weird

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Sun, 01/13/2013 - 6:22am

if you think reading feels weird , I can't imagine how weird brail is to blind ppl !!!

 
 
Mon, 01/14/2013 - 4:27am
jelly_cuh Says:
 
 
Thu, 02/21/2013 - 3:03pm

ha, damn blind people really do feel what they read. physically and mentally.

 
 
Thu, 01/09/2014 - 12:26am
wetsoap Says:

same as vinyles damn... i love those vibrations!

 
 
Thu, 02/21/2013 - 11:00am

Complex language for the win! Its almost like a code that when solved tells you meaningless information unless paired with other codes!

 
 
Thu, 02/21/2013 - 1:10pm
mindgames Says:

I don't know about the crying part, but I still think the human language is just not complex enough. It is too simple of a language to be able to describe important things in life, such as psychedelic experiences and things of that nature. Experience is the most powerful language, but we have no way of describing experience, you know what I mean? English is only good for identifying objects that we attached names to. People point to a tree, and say "that's a tree". It is not a tree you idiot, there are hundreds of thousands of different types of trees, yet 1 word describes all. It's kind of dumb.

 
 
Thu, 02/21/2013 - 5:44pm
Baked_Lays Says:

lol I know you only think that way because of the psychedelics. I used to think English was too complex before my first trip, now I believe the exact opposite

 
 
Fri, 02/22/2013 - 12:35pm
mindgames Says:

WORD. The schools ain't teaching shit, So I had to elevate out of the system. Using entheogens help with this process of discovering complex language, But there are many other factors. And no, I'm not a hippy, I'm a living god.

 
 
Fri, 02/22/2013 - 5:47pm

I see the overall point you're making but I tend to disagree. I wouldn't say that the language isn't complex enough...as it is, the vast majority of English speakers don't know how to speak or write properly; adding complexity will only undermine the clarity of language.

I don't get the point you're making with saying "tree" is dumb. "Tree" is simply a class of objects...you write as if you haven't ever heard of the different tree names, like oak, birch, pine, etc. Tree is just the word that helps us to conceptualize that they're all of the same class. Kind of like how "primate" applies to all monkeys, apes, and humans. And I'm pretty sure that if I point at a tree, it's a tree. Sure, it's only a tree to English speakers, but the other languages have equivalents of "tree", so it's essentially the same for all.

I also don't understand why you're insinuating that the most important things in life cannot be described by words. Sure they can. Psychedelic experiences may not be able to be communicated by language, but I'd say that's more because they're incredibly personal, complex things that do not actually NEED to be described by language. Experience, as you said, is the most powerful language. And that's probably the natural order of things. So it makes perfect sense that a less powerful language, like human language, cannot describe experience very well.

I think you're expecting language to be able to fill a role that it isn't made to fill. Experience is what drives life. Anyone with a brain stem knows that. But language isn't, and shouldn't be, a substitute for that. If language could give you the same feelings as experience, then why experience at all? Language is just for communication of experiences, ideas, beliefs, etc. It isn't meant to actually substitute for the experience of life.

 
 
Sat, 02/23/2013 - 12:03am
mindgames Says:

well written. I applaud you. I guess true knowledge is not meant to be openly spoken. It is only available if you are willing to take the necessary risk, and that's how life was meant to be. Thanks for clearing up my mind, not many people have been able to do so.

 
 
Wed, 02/27/2013 - 10:18pm

Thanks man, for both this and the initial comment (that is what got me to think in-depth, after all).

I apologize if my response was so blunt (ha! blunt) to the point of coming off as pretentious or something. I just re-read it and all I could think in my head was "Wow, I seriously sound like Captain Asshole or Corporal Cocksucker or something".

 
 
Wed, 02/27/2013 - 2:32am
Jsmerf Says:

I suppose that's what makes a writer such an art form. It's taking communication through concrete definitions of words, and creating metaphors and emotional language to describe something so much more.

So yes, one simpleton's "that's a tree" isn't the same as "that red oak" or even "that Quercus rubra" if you're a scientist. Those are words too, but a phrase like "that tree was where I climbed to the heavens as a child, gaining the courage with each year to climb a few branches higher. It was where I had my first kiss, and what I faithfully used as an accomplice when sneaking out of the house to rip the binger in high school," can actually give an object a sense of experience.

To quote V for Vendeta, “Because while the truncheon may be used in lieu of conversation, words will always retain their power. Words offer the means to meaning, and for those who will listen, the enunciation of truth." Which is really just a complicated version of, "The pen is mightier than the sword."

Sorry for being so long-winded.

 
 
Thu, 02/21/2013 - 7:41pm
Jade0420 Says:

If reading is weird.. think about when language was being formed in general.. How did they do it? Going from grunts.. to how we speak now? It just blows my mind..

 
 
Fri, 02/22/2013 - 12:18am

Is our language not grunts? Other animals probably think it,s a grunt of some sort. Its a series of vocal percussion. We simply made our language become our advantage over other animals. Language allowed us to communicate and preserve knowledge. Passing down stories. Language made us advance

 
 
Thu, 02/21/2013 - 8:52pm

dude i always think about this! so trippy

 
 
Fri, 02/22/2013 - 12:10am

I always think about that! And even listening to someone talk is trippy, cause you hear noises that translating to a whole thought with meaning and purpose

 
 
Fri, 02/22/2013 - 2:10am

DUDE! I am reading right now! Sooooo weird...

 
 
Fri, 02/22/2013 - 4:19am
arcon Says:

now imagine this with robot eyes the light receiver gets the light in it and transfers the data to a computer chip of some sort that converts the digital data to the electrical impulses that represent that series of images to our brain

wohhhhh then you could hack your own eyes to see what ever you wanted to see.... like a program that runs when ur baked that highlights cops in your vision so you notice them instantly when they are in ur vision

 
 
Fri, 02/22/2013 - 9:44am

Reading about how reading is weird is seriously BLOWING MY MIND!

 
 
Fri, 02/22/2013 - 1:52pm

you know what else is wierd? an ovulating zebra riding a elephant, who is eating peanuts, while doing advance forms of Multivariable calculus.

 
 
Fri, 02/22/2013 - 5:49pm

Is the zebra or elephant doing the calculus? The overall weirdness level is dependent on this fact.

 
 
Sat, 02/23/2013 - 11:00pm

The zebra, I guess as a trick to help the pain in delivering a 55lb baby; yeah.. that makes sense

 
 
Sat, 02/23/2013 - 12:09am

dude ive thought about that so many times but i couldnt think about how to turn it into words .... props buddy

 
 
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Thu, 01/16/2014 - 2:48am
Frontman Says:

All this talk about language makes me think. Here I am thinking in the English language. My thoughts are composed in English. Some people who speak different languages say they find themselves thinking in some other language than their mother tongue involuntarily. What if we never learned a spoken language? How would we articulate our thoughts? This must be like what being any other animal is like, like dogs (wow I just said like a lot.)