Submitted by Hail2tehsun on Fri, 05/04/2012 - 1:35am
is equivalent to scooping a cup of water out of the ocean and saying "hmm I don't see any dolphins, there must not be any"...
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I like this analogy alot. Cause someone who has no idea whats in the ocean and scooped out water would have no idea dophins are in there...let alone the other thousands of spieces, plants, etc in the ocean. Makes you realize the endless possibilities that may be out there in the vastness of space.
This is my favorite highdea I've ever read, hands down
One of the best analogies for space I've heard. I hope you came up with it, that would make you super cool in my book.
he's quoting neil tyson, almost verbatim in fact.. .. still tho, it's worth repeating
ill burn in hell if i dont believe in god, or hell as a mater of fact
Aww, you still have imaginary friends! But in all seriousness, Jesus was supposedly killed becuase he was a different religion as the Romans. He taught not to prejudice against other people. I think its a little pathetic to believe "The man in the sky did it!" I really can't believe you think science is a lie, people like you go through life thinking that once its over they get a paradise, causing them to have never lived. My only regret is that I won't get to say I told you so.
@Zapados
No one wants to listen to your negativity, get a fucking life.
And it's spelled, MORON, you fucking moron.
Am I the only one who noticed that Zapados is blatantly trolling?
Actually he did screw up the animals. Neil Tyson DeGrasse said whales. :)
I just watched a documentary on the History channel called "Through the Wormhole" with Morgan Freeman as the narrator. It had this exact quote when explaining the vast uncharted universe, showing how we've not yet uncovered enough to make conclusions about whether there is other life out there or not. The scientist said 'fish' instead of dolphin. (Which makes more sense). My guess is that this has been slightly altered and posted on here. I don't care either way, because at least people are being exposed to this marvelous idea. But if i'm correct then they should've given credit... oh well fuck it
more like a fraction of a drop of water. space is fucking. huge.
Indeed, it is fuckin huge. Think of how big some of those stars are. almost unimaginable.
oh and P.S. 69Blunts, your avatar, fucking awesome.
great analogy haha. i would say it is a little less than true though, we can predict to a fairly high accuracy what other life most likely looks like, and we know exactly what most stars / planets look like because we know what elements make up the physical universe they are made of. the physical universe is still a great mystery though.
im not saying in the grand scheme of schemes, im talking about in the schemes of our physical universe which we experience. i think we should simply be concerned with learning about things to the extent of our limitations of observation, and beyond that we can simply break ground slowly towards the greater truth that we havent found yet. what i'm trying to say is we do know a lot, what we really need is wisdom to understand everything that we think we know about life.
in the grand scheme of things, theres no way to even know if we don't know shit. we might know almost everything. you should get into college-level books and articles written by real intellectuals and not stoners dude... people think of some incredibly mind blowing things that has never been posted on these forums, i can't think of an example right now, but i remember feeling completely humbled in the lack of my understanding. while i failed to understand a lot of it, i still saw the underlying greater truth that was being portrayed, every word didnt make sense but together the ideas were incredible and seemed like something i might think of in a few years if i did a lot of psychedelics.
i completely forgot what this was all about but uh.. ismoked a copious amount haha peace dude hope no hard feelings
negative downvotes for a purely opinion-based subject?
since when wasn't it ok to share my own opinion...
I have a theory that there could be other life with us now but possibly we cant even comprehend interactions with our basic 5 senses; and we cant fathom how to initiate a state of relation to the other "life"
most definitely agreed
for example, if there were two dimensional beings we wouldn't be able to observe them would we? if they only lived within two dimensions, length and width for example, they would be so flat they would essentially be invisible and insubstantial, because they wouldn't have the 3rd dimension of depth. depth, or space, is what we observe in our 4 dimensional state of existence. if there were 5th or higher dimensional beings, maybe beings made of pure consciousness with no need for physical vessels, how could we contact them? well i think human consciousness is able to transcend the physical and reach higher levels of consciousness which may be a level that higher dimensional beings resonate within (the words aren't meant to be technical, but hopefully u get the idea). i think meditation and "channeling" has actually connected humans to higher beings for thousands of years now.
Reddit.
Man you just gotta understand that you aren't the only one who goes on the internet.
Dolphins shit in the ocean. They bleed in the ocean. They shed dead cells in the ocean. A microscopic amount of Dolphin DNA would be present in your cup of water. I'm just saying.
So your saying every drop of ocean water contains dolphin waste? I don't think so dude its a big ass ocean. It's not guaranteed that every drop will contain traces of dolphin. But I see where your coming from. Just sayin
yeah and were all made of stars, that is besides the point
I take an astronomy and cosmology class at a top astronomy university, I go into those classes and laugh to myself how we think we have an idea of whats going on out there
another thing i've heard neil tyson say is that all we know of our world is the edges and some inner details of about 4% of everything that's out there.. dark matter and dark energy, combined, make up about 96% of everything, and we still don't know that much about the remaining 4% that our most sophisticated technology enables us to see.. .. still tho.. we have an okay idea of how everything really works, at a very basic level.. there are degrees to ignorance
very basic for sure, not to undermind all that we have grasped. The universe is amazingly complex, and even things we do think we know or understand have issues or can clash with other ideas. It should be interesting to see what more we will learn and/or clarify in our lifetimes.
I love this, I always wonder how people can be so close-minded.
i like this. im a firm believer, and iv seen some weird shit.
to be honest, this is about as much as we know about the ocean on our own planet.
Exactly. I was watching ancient aliens the other night, and they pretty much proposed that aliens could be living in our ocean and there are accounts of people seeing spacecraft rise out of the water. It's unbelievable all of the things we aren't even close to discovering.
As well as suggesting that there is life out there, this analogy is also suggesting that those aliens are massive, coz everyone knows you couldn't fit a dolphin in a cup. How big are baby dolphins?
This shit I like though.
Great comment, but you paraphrased Neil Degrassi Tyson here. Not original, unfortunately. Or even stoner! Still great idea though.
That's why I want to gain as much knowledge as I can so I can be a super wise old man.
The last part of the quote is fucking stupid. It should be, hmm, no dolphins in it, still no reason to think there are any. If you have trouble understanding the difference, one is an irrational assumption and the other isn't. I hope Neil Tyson didn't phrase it as stated in the "highdea" since he's supposed to be a scientist.
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