This is a question that I'm continually perplexed by, especially being a history major.
Who writes history? Who decides that their accounts of an event are valid at all?
I know I posed this question to my professor once. He told me "Well, the winners write history. The losers write poetry".

When you think about it, it's terrifying. Things that are historically accepted as true may not even be true at all, it's from a single point perspective.
I mean, honestly, most of the things we know about Socrates and attribute it as true are mostly written by fucking Plato. "Well, if Plato said it, must be true". Well.... no, not exactly. Nothing is really true in history based on ONE source. But we do it anyway, at least with regards to historical fact.



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Tue, 04/24/2012 - 10:58am

haha I like this highdea, it reminds me of my
Exact highdea about history and religion. There's no way any religion has any proof.

Now the only thing that I do love about history is science because essentially, you can always re-make a scientific project and watch the process yourself! History is pretty important though, haha where would we be without it?

 
 
Sat, 05/05/2012 - 5:26pm

What if nothing existed before yesterday and every memory and history before that was planted here.
I'm fortunately perplexed by that question especially being a philosophy major =P (not yet I start college next year)

 
 
Sat, 05/05/2012 - 7:50pm

can i give you advice? don't major in philosophy. Minor in it if nothing else. but with this economy you'll be screwed if you major in that. I agree completely that is fascinating but practically speaking, if you love it, study education and one day teach it. this comes from someone who is graduating college and knows people who majored in it.

 
 
Sat, 05/05/2012 - 5:56pm
nurplette Says:

The words that you're reading right now are history in our minds

 
 
Sat, 05/05/2012 - 5:57pm

I love this, there should be a history book with all the shit that they left out of the schools history books. Like how in the holocuast, thousands of juvenile Jews joined together and rebelled against the nazis.

 
 
Sat, 05/05/2012 - 6:39pm
bakayurei Says:

as a student of history, you ought to know that most of our knowledge about the past doesn't come from written records, but from bones, bits of pottery, and other things that can't speak, and if something can't speak then it can't lie

 
 
Sat, 05/05/2012 - 6:44pm

You're like the most educated person I've seen on this website.

 
 
Sat, 05/05/2012 - 7:39pm
Brenbuscus Says:

though his image is of two dogs getting it on.

 
 
Sun, 05/27/2012 - 10:58pm

the exact same thoughts went through my head

 
 
Sat, 05/05/2012 - 9:06pm
merpmerp Says:

Considering I'm an art history minor, I'm more than aware the written records arn't the only form of history. I think what I'm trying to say is that things written in textbooks, many students take it as completly true. But who decides if it's accurate enough to put in textbooks? For example: in the Northeast, our textbooks call it that "Civil War" and if you look at textbooks in the South, it's called the War of Northern Aggression.

Which one is supposed to be a more valid account of history? We just don't know.

 
 
Sun, 05/06/2012 - 2:17am

lol we know that the war happened. What people do/don't call it is just two sides of the same coin.

 
 
Sun, 05/06/2012 - 5:13am
merpmerp Says:

I'm not saying we don't know it happened. I'm saying that the events are typically from one point of view, which goes to say that this point of view could be exaggerating or even fabricating accounts of what happened. If this is the case, what we might take as true might not be true at all.

 
 
Sun, 05/06/2012 - 9:56am
bakayurei Says:

hahahaha that's brilliant, do they really call it the war of northern aggression? i'm sure i've heard that term used on the simpsons before but i thought they were just making fun of southerners

 
 
Sun, 11/04/2012 - 9:45pm

I don't know about what's taught these days, but back in the day, we were taught that it was the Civil War and I live in the South,

 
 
Sat, 05/05/2012 - 7:39pm
Brenbuscus Says:

like in the book 1984, if 1 person believe they did something and another simeltaneously believes that it did happen too, that is history. even if it didnt happen.

 
 
Sat, 05/05/2012 - 7:47pm

that's why i don't believe the bible. you really can't trust man to give the truth

 
 
Sat, 05/05/2012 - 7:48pm
yoinkie Says:

I would love to tell you if history is real or not, but Im currently busy contemplating if right now if even real.

 
 
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Sat, 05/05/2012 - 8:11pm

Take the whole history of marijuana as an example

 
 
Sat, 05/05/2012 - 8:30pm

right. when money is involved, anything goes

 
 
Sat, 05/05/2012 - 8:20pm

most history taught in the US is just from the white mans perspective
if you know what i mean

 
 
Sat, 05/05/2012 - 8:28pm
xenOh Says:

"There is no truth, only perspective"

 
 
Tue, 05/08/2012 - 9:52pm
Jdogbemple Says:
 
 
Sat, 05/05/2012 - 9:16pm
But_Mahm Says:

Read Prokopios: A Secret History. That's sure to shed some light on EVERYTHING - especially that whore Theodora.

 
 
Sat, 05/05/2012 - 11:38pm

I learned about this when I read bits of the Precesion of the Simulacra, which described how nothing exists, only perspectives and ideas exist of any original content.

History is written in one persons opinionated view, but no one person can ever truely understand the mind set of another. so history is a paradox.

 
 
Sun, 05/06/2012 - 4:09am

this made me think: what if it was all just made up, as possibly a cover-up? what if everything we've based our cultures, our laws, our humanity was made up? i don't believe that could be 100% of what could happen, but i do believe history has been altered in a few instances that it had to be. for perhaps, our sake? ("our" as in "us as a society/people") ..some type of illuminati shit maan

 
 
Sun, 05/06/2012 - 5:14am
merpmerp Says:

Precisely what I was getting at. Maybe not to such a large extent as a cover-up, but same concept.

 
 
Sun, 05/06/2012 - 5:15am
merpmerp Says:

Well, I have to say, thank you to everyone for upvoting and contributing to this.
Never in a million years would I have expected to have a top highdea so... thanks a bunch guys <3

 
 
Sun, 05/06/2012 - 12:27pm
Legal_Eyes Says:

i have made it a goal of mine to one day have a wiki page...theres where i get a lot of my history

 
 
Sun, 05/06/2012 - 9:12pm

I'm so glad you posted this. History really isn't real, or at least what they teach us. It's all propaganda. In Germany, most kids don't even know the Holocaust happened. But we did the same thing with the atomic bomb. You don't see history teachers teaching us much about Hiroshima, if at all. I found out from the internet. Hence why I think SOPA is just a way to ensure we're fed the right material. The Zeitgeist has an amazing video on youtube if you search "zeitgeist federal reserve." It has valid proof that wars are planned. Including 9/11. Fuggin' government.

 
 
Sun, 05/06/2012 - 9:23pm
merpmerp Says:

Whoa, hey now, I'm not saying it isn't real. I'm saying it's grossly distorted. It's not all completly about propaganda. And I mean, I've been to Germany and I have German friends here at my university. They're completly aware of the Holocaust and their textbooks are some of the most accurate I've ever seen.

And as far as the atomic bombs go, I'm not sure where you went to high school but we actually went quite in depth in AP American. However, you do have a point. One thing I've noticed is that high schools absolutely avoid talking about Malcolm X, a massive figure in the Civil Rights movement. We read his autobiography in one of my Core classes and my professor was astonished when most people didn't know about him.

That's a case of censorship, in my opinion. He was a radical and more importantly, effective figure.

 
 
Tue, 05/08/2012 - 9:06am
bakayurei Says:

someone's sold you a load of bollocks, i'm sorry to say.. germans aren't holocaust deniers by culture .. .. they're not proud of their history, but they don't hide it from themselves.. history's history, it's happened, it's never going to change, that's their attitude .. .. also- do they really not teach the dropping of bombs on japan over there? what about the firebombing of dresden in peace time? do they teach you that?

 
 
Sun, 05/06/2012 - 11:11pm
Tirck Says:

This is what I think when reading 1984. Like, what's to prove what we think is real is real? And, then, what is reality? It is merely created by the human mind, and is contained in the human mind. What is real? What truly exists? How can we prove anything?

 
 
Mon, 05/07/2012 - 12:59am

Lots of history is forgotten because it is disproving to the accepted history today, the guys who started writing the things that they want to be remembered could have been anything they wanted. I do know that Christianity is moved around to cover up other religions big days that they don't want the people to celebrate or even know about. like Christmas was put on December 26 to cover up a pagan holiday, when it was actually in may or around may 4th was when that event happened