If you can't see it, you can't prove it exists; makes me wonder what 'it' is like just outside our field of vision.

It could just be complete nothingness, only forming something when you turn to see what is there; a mega-fast computer creating images faster than our brains are able process a glimpse of the void.

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Thu, 06/09/2011 - 10:11am

We have no idea whatsoever what the world really looks like, feels like, sounds like, etc. We are just consciousness inside this machine that makes consciousness applicable and perceives the world. Our senses could be purely psychological though and there really is no world. Just our senses. No one else exists, but in our consciousness they do exist. I could go on for days about this...

 
 
Sat, 09/03/2011 - 2:09am
DasBooooze Says:

I have always wondered how things work. Like, you fall asleep and then next thing you know you wake up and 8 hours has gone by in a flash, but what about for the people that are still up? I don't know if I am making any sense right now, I wish I could better put this in words.

 
 
Sat, 09/03/2011 - 3:51am

I actually used to think about this a lot when I was younger...

 
 
Sat, 06/11/2011 - 3:28am

Reminds me a lot of how the lucid dream state is. When you have a dream where you're lucid, you can have conversations with dream figures and ask them questions and whatnot. The funny thing is sometimes they get very irritated when you confront them and say they are not real. They say they are and copy the things you do to try and prove they are not a product of your imagination. I have a very good book about lucid dreams where the author talks about a few situations where this occurs and many other really interesting scenarios occurring in lucid dreams that shed a lot of light on the true nature of consciousness.

 
 
Sat, 09/03/2011 - 2:24am
lukyganesh Says:

ahaha no way. you'd be arguing with your self.

 
 
Thu, 08/11/2011 - 3:10pm
pynipple Says:
 
 
Sat, 08/20/2011 - 6:14am

I had this exact belief when I was younger. I was 100% convinced anything outside of my field of vision wasn't real and even everything i saw was only a facade perpetuated to give reason tto my life

 
 
Sat, 09/03/2011 - 11:18am

Or what if it's all real? And inadement objects move when there not in our vision? Like those creepy fucking garden gnomes..

 
 
Mon, 08/29/2011 - 1:15am
smokatron Says:

Fuck that sit in a chair its holding you up and its behind you out of sight. Ergo it must be real

 
 
Fri, 09/02/2011 - 4:24pm

Not to sound ridiculous or anything, but what is real? Just because you feel something on your fanny when you sit does not mean it has to be a chair. Lets get absurd with this:

You have a peripheral view of about 170 degrees (for arguments sake) and you cannot see beyond that. You don't even recognise there is blackness beyond the sideline of your peripheral view; in your brain it just does not it exist. When you do look to your sides then you see something because you moved that "window" towards a different direction to see a new 170 degrees. Your own personal universe ends at 170 degrees. At 171 degrees, without shifting your eyes, there is nothing except your mind. (Maybe this is why people always "see" things out of the corner of their eyes? Right at the line where your vision stops and your mind takes over, it gets a little weird.)

You sit in a chair and cannot see it, sure it seems like it has to exist. It is outside your 170 degrees through (different, smaller degrees vertically because we have widescreen vision; is there why they developed widescreen TV's? To mimick our natural vision window...) The chair is outside your personal universe but it feels like you are sitting on something, who says it has to be a chair though? Is it an edge in your universe? Maybe a sill that moves around to replace the colors being fed to your eyes when you aren't looking.

Now back to normality. Does the chair exist even when I am not looking at it? I say 'yes' with a 99.9% confidence level. But hey, it is always fun to imagine again.

 
 
Sat, 09/03/2011 - 2:24am
lukyganesh Says:

you sound ridiculous. or just really high

 
 
Sat, 09/03/2011 - 10:37am
Tommyvbc Says:
 
 
Sun, 09/04/2011 - 3:49am
smokatron Says:

When you hear noises from behind you it all exsists, there are countless ways to disprove this without sounding crazy.

 
 
Sun, 09/04/2011 - 11:54pm
SkighHy Says:

Yeah, or back into a parked car. That shit's real too. DAMN

 
 
Mon, 08/29/2011 - 1:56pm

i think about this all the time. or if im in a room with no windows or anything i start to think if everything outside the room is just disappearing as i sit in that one room.

 
 
Fri, 09/02/2011 - 11:33pm
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Sat, 09/03/2011 - 1:13am
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Sat, 09/03/2011 - 2:54am

Weed. I think thats kinda the idea...

 
 
Sat, 09/03/2011 - 2:07am
DasBooooze Says:

You're just overthinking things. Life is... Life. Can't we just let it be?

 
 
Tue, 09/06/2011 - 8:28am

Of course we could just let it be....but I refuse to. MY life has a lot of unknowns in it, I accept this and in order for me to not harp on them, I have to find an answer. Be it an absurd one (like this HighDEA) or by searching for the true facts.

Do you search for your answers or just look at the problem in awe and move on? Different strokes for different folks

 
 
Thu, 09/08/2011 - 9:33pm
DasBooooze Says:
 
 
Sat, 09/03/2011 - 2:16am
rawdogger Says:

Yes, it does. This is the concept of object permanence. Humans develop it very early in cognitive develop; literally only babies think things dont cant see dont exist.

 
 
Sat, 09/03/2011 - 2:23am

until mirrors came along hahah, but i completley understand what your getting at

 
 
Sat, 09/03/2011 - 2:24am

Yoinkie wrote a similar post about this. Actually it does exist, but its not the same as we perceive ot when we're looking at it. Apparently atoms behave differently when they're being observed as to opposed to when they're not.

 
 
Sat, 09/03/2011 - 2:35am

Well seeing isn't your only sense so if you can hear something behind you then behind you exists.

 
 
Sat, 09/03/2011 - 2:36am

good highdea but i liked yoinkies more just more details in it.

 
 
Sat, 09/03/2011 - 2:54am
damian26 Says:

dude i swear i think about this all the time !!!!

 
 
Sat, 09/03/2011 - 2:57am
Crahnick Says:

http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=7583894250854515095#
Waking Life. Watch it. Trust me it relates to this kind of philosophical stuff

 
 
Sat, 09/03/2011 - 2:58am

This movie inspired me to learn to lucid dream

 
 
Sat, 09/03/2011 - 2:58am
 
 
Sat, 09/03/2011 - 3:00am

This is like quantum physics or something related to that.

 
 
Sat, 09/03/2011 - 3:05am
devint28 Says:

If this were true, none of you would actually exist, and I would just be responding to my imagination, therfore talking to myself

 
 
Sat, 09/03/2011 - 3:22am

Not true. You're observing our projections. Now before I left this comment, I didn't exist.

I'm super baked, I don't fucking know lol

 
 
Sat, 09/03/2011 - 4:14am
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Sat, 09/03/2011 - 11:18am
ThissGuy21 Says:

You can use a mirror to see whats behind you

 
 
Sat, 09/03/2011 - 11:54am
warlord Says:

Quantum Mechanics! There is a movie called the Rabbit Hole that I would recommend to everyone! Stonies especially

 
 
Sat, 09/03/2011 - 12:55pm

Uhm, I'm pretty sure this doesn't work. Because what about the pets, or people who are behind you, at the time being? They exist, it's not like they're floating around in nothingness, just because you are looking in the opposite direction.

 
 
Sat, 09/03/2011 - 1:42pm

omg. this is the only highDEA that i've seen in a whiiiile that actually made me think.

 
 
Sat, 09/03/2011 - 11:52pm

well they say matter doesn't exist without an observer
so I believe what is behind you is just a bunch of waves of nothingness/information waiting to be absorbed by your neurological connections making your senses aware of them.

 
 
Tue, 09/06/2011 - 1:25am

There is a theory that explores exactly this called the Copenhagen Interpretation pretaining to the double slit experiment... In a nutshell, the experement goes like this:
An electron is shot at a plate with two slits with a 50% chance of going through either slit. When it is observed, it goes through either one or the other... When the scientists turn their backs, it goes through both slits simultaniously.
This is explained by the Copenhagen Interpretation, which states that all matter exists as waves of probabbility, and every time there is multiple ways something can happen (which is all the time) The universe splits into an infinite number of alternate universes. When you observe something, it takes a path and behaves one specific way, which you precieve as reality.
The trippiest experiment ever for this is Schrodingers Cat... Basically a cat is put in a box with a hose attatched to a poison gas container. The scientist goes to another room where the can cannot be observed and pushes a button that has a 50% chance of pumping the gas into the box. According to the theory, the cat IS BOTH ALIVE AND DEAD AT THE SAME TIME!!!! Chew on that for a while... I did, it still hasn't left my brain...

 
 
Tue, 09/06/2011 - 1:57am
highonMike Says:

dudes ive thought about this allll the time. as i sit here on my computer im wacked out.

the mirror gives you the ability to see behind you, thus making behind you not an issue of nothingness because your eyes are making it something