A group of living things is only as strong as their weakest link, only as fast as the slowest. To attain a higher level of being, it would be necessary to trim this fat and rid the planet of a meager, weak organism that served no purpose to the world. The stupid people that spread negativity and ignorance would be a nuisance to your existence, therefore you may dispose of them as well. And we would advance. We would evolve.

Who is to say that human life has value? What makes people valuable? Sometimes I see people and think that the world would be better off without them. That they hurt the earth and the advancement of mankind more than they help it. Why should their life have value? Maybe we as a species are supposed to cut off the weak. Take out the stupid. Kill the lesser beings in order to advance. Maybe that is all we were ever meant to do. Evolve as a species at any cost. Were we meant to be so primal?

I feel like that's evolution instinct is in our genes. Humans, specifically men, are so overly competitive. We constantly feel a need to establish dominance on our turf, we have to be the best and we have to pick out the weak and destroy them. Were we meant to be so barbaric? Care not for the dumb, deaf, and blind. They only impede the evolution of the human race.

Maybe this is the logical solution for evolution. This route would involve no emotion. Had emotion been involved, this route would be impossible. Because emotionally, we believe every life is as important as the next and everyone has a purpose on this planet.

I think if we lived by strict logic, we would be so much more advanced but we would also be cold and heartless, no emotions at all. You've got to influence the right amount of emotion into your logic in order to attain reason. I believe reason is the perfect combination of the two; logic and emotion. Some people are overly emotional and some people are overly logical, which makes them both a little unreasonable.

I'm a pretty reasonable guy, so all that "kill off the weak" stuff isn't really my beliefs. I was just playing devil's advocate I suppose. I just wanted to propose a theory to how humanity is suppose to be operating. I know I rambled a bit so I hope this all makes sense.

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Tue, 11/22/2011 - 12:19am
ninjatoker Says:

if you harvest a dead body you can get 46 million off of selling the parts so yea it has value

Tue, 11/22/2011 - 11:24am
CamBam. Says:

I'll keep that in mind next time I murder someone.

Wed, 11/30/2011 - 2:23am

If that's true, I'm going to write a will saying that my family must sell me part by part on the black market if I die. Emphasis on the black market.

Mon, 12/05/2011 - 12:21am
imadildo Says:

Black peoples bodies won't accept your organs, unless you pre-soak them in hennesey.

Mon, 12/05/2011 - 11:57pm
likeaBOSS6 Says:
Tue, 12/06/2011 - 1:35am
dirtyheads Says:
Tue, 12/06/2011 - 12:55am

And the joke of the day goes to imafuckingdildo.

Tue, 12/06/2011 - 11:03am
pebbles Says:
Tue, 12/06/2011 - 2:05am

I was emphasizing black market because they pay the best

Tue, 12/06/2011 - 4:56am
Dankrupt Says:

Doesn't that just mean human death has value?

Fri, 12/16/2011 - 3:52pm
Mon, 01/02/2012 - 3:51pm

I think we are looking at this all wrong.
Why does human life have value?
Okay well, since the answer here is "the weak are less valuable"
look at your own life.
When you were a baby you were "the weak", actually the weakest.
Dependent on everything and anything around.
Two beings brought you into this world.
Two beings nurtured you from being the "weak" to the "strong...er"
Just because One believe they are strong physically, does that mean One is strong mentally?
If One is strong mentally, One would think "what value does MY life have".
Think about that.
You gave your own life value.
You have the ability to do that.
But the ability that you have yet to acquire is the ability to put value on another beings life.
Obviously talking about procreating here.
(Some beings choose abortion, thus putting a value of worthless to that life)
Think about it is all that I ask.

Tue, 11/22/2011 - 12:20am
Kratos Says:
Sat, 11/26/2011 - 7:58pm
Elnicko Says:

Not too emotional but not too logical, for a "balance". One problem with that is this balance of reason and emotion would be different for everyone on earth, then we squabble, throwing off the balance.

WHY ARE WE SOOOOO FLAWED. Maybe it's not flaw, maybe the squabble keeps the balance of population lower, and allowing more human life in the long run.

Shit man, thanks for the thoughts.

Tue, 12/06/2011 - 12:33am
Tue, 12/06/2011 - 12:37am
THSeaweed Says:

Redefine is gonna come on here and own you.

Tue, 12/06/2011 - 12:43am
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Tue, 12/06/2011 - 12:41am
Philliph Says:

Man, you should definitely watch "So, What's Your Price?" awesome documentary/film that talks pretty much about the price of a human, and racial distinctions, IMO it's a truly masterpiece worth of watching.

Tue, 12/06/2011 - 12:42am

You must be lacking value or unsure how to express it. Life is valuable and if you take it for granted you only limit yourself.

Tue, 12/06/2011 - 12:46am
CamBam. Says:

I didn't say life wasn't valuable. I said certain people's lives are not valuable. Once again, these are not entirely my beliefs, these are just ideas to spark thoughts and conversation.

Tue, 12/06/2011 - 2:32am
65musdank Says:

I don't think this guy finished reading the highdea!
What an idiot.... CUT HIS HEAD OFF!

Tue, 12/06/2011 - 3:16am
TooYoung Says:

Calm down.. if he didn't finish then it's his bad, that's the maximum punishment he should receive.

Tue, 12/06/2011 - 12:54am
SkylarL Says:

(I apologize if the following isn't completely coherent; not in the best state of mind to be writing a lot out but, against my better judgement, I'm going to do it anyway)

"Who is to say that human life has value? What makes people valuable? Sometimes I see people and think that the world would be better off without them. That they hurt the earth and the advancement of mankind more than they help it. Why should their life have value?"

I've had this thought so often. I still haven't quite found the answer.

I know I'm probably going to get flamed for this..
A lot of people throw religion in there. God. It gives their life meaning, knowing that doing well in this life will grant them an eternity of bliss and splendor.

I'm taking some ideas from Eyedea (haha) here. I feel like religious belief, in a lot of cases, is sort of... a defense mechanism. We human beings are capable of complex thought and we have a conscience. We know that we're going to die some day. We know that one day this life is going to end, and we'll never see anyone we knew again. We find comfort in the thought of an afterlife; an eternity of being happy. It can help keep some sane.

Now, to your point about us being "competitive".

As Terroja Kincaid put it, "we're all soul-less bags of meat wandering around trying to justify our supposition of supremacy to the dogs and the rocks". I find it quite interesting that many people who oppose killing animals for their meat or simply for sport, are the very same people who burned ants on the sidewalks with magnifying glasses as children.

Why should a cow, or deer be more valuable than an ant? Why are humans more important than each individual cell that make up our very bodies?

We seem to have this selfish need to make ourselves seem better than everyone else around us. Any other person. This also extends to the rest of the animal kingdom. The difference is, we know that we do this.

So, this begs the question... why?

In conclusion, I'll leave with this:

"Maybe we should humble ourselves before all of nature and just admit that we are not better. We don’t have some invisible immortal ghost in our machine that sets us apart from this world. We’re just another cog in a big contraption called nature–and we’re not even an important cog. The contraption would run just fine without us and our conceited notions of immortality".

-Again, from Terroja Kincaid. The man is a genius.

Goodnight, all. I'm gonna get some much needed sleep

Tue, 12/06/2011 - 1:35am

first id like to say, very thoughtful point of view
i disagree for the most part but i just have a different perspective

"Why should a cow, or deer be more valuable than an ant?

because a cow or a deer is a higher step in the food chain, and their life (or death rather) provides nutrients to sustain intelligent beings (such as humans)
so why is sustaining intelligent life important?

"Why are humans more important than each individual cell that make up our very bodies?"

i think value has to do with potential
humans have the potential to observe the universe, categorize, understand, and shape it to a phenomenal extent through science
if we use this potential to balance nature as we see best for all life on earth, we are like shepherds of the earth
if we see a species is killing and replicating more than is sustainable, we could reduce it's numbers to re-balance the food chain
if we see a species is dyeing off, we can protect them and even help inseminate them if necessary
if plant life is choking out other plant life, we can re-balance that too
what else in the known universe is able to go around fixing things?
sadly, most things people fix nowadays are our own mistakes, especially regarding our impact on nature
we have the potential for greatness, we just need to learn to actually use it

also, i would be careful around theories like those Kincaid has, i don't doubt his intelligence or even everything he has to say
but i think it is rather closed minded to believe that the nature of existence is only what science know's it to be
i do not believe man has some invisible immortal ghost in our machine that set's us apart from this world
i think man has a spirit that connects us to this world
the word spirit and the ideas of religion are so convoluted with misinformation and more especially misinterpretations that people often shrug them off as myths
but people have genuinely believed, for thousands of years, that there is a higher power, a higher consciousness, that breaths life into this universe
i don't think this "god" would be found in the clouds, or in some fantasy place called heaven, but within the very nature that surrounds us
i could go on, but all i can say is that i highly doubt humans will every find clear evidence supporting the case for god or spirits
that is why it requires faith, and to have faith is to live without constant fear of the unknown
i like to remember that no matter what i believe, what is real is real, and what happens after i die will happen
there is no changing it, no matter what i believe, so i may as well life the best life i can, while i know i can

Tue, 12/06/2011 - 1:03am

All human life has inherent value, with the exception of Justin Beiber.

Tue, 12/06/2011 - 1:17am
CamBam. Says:

Don't hate on the Biebs man. Anybody gettin Selena poon gets my respect. I figured you of all people would admire that!

Tue, 12/06/2011 - 1:22am
Smokeitall Says:

thats one good thing against a million bad things

Tue, 12/06/2011 - 1:29am

He's getting Selena poon? What, do they like scissor or something?

Tue, 12/06/2011 - 1:47am
CamBam. Says:

I hear that he just sings into her vagina.


Tue, 12/06/2011 - 2:08am

I'm pretty sure Hitler said something like this once.

Tue, 12/06/2011 - 2:30am

I feel as if society has evolved past evolution if that makes sense. We're moving backwards, the people reproducing the most children are the "weak" and poor. While the elite tend to have fewer if any children at all.

For example, say I were an attractive, smart person with favorable jeans. In today's society I would be going to college, advancing through my career, acquiring money and always wear a condom, and eventually starting a small family. The rest of the world, including all those in poverty (the weak) have nothing better to do then fuck and make children.

Our gene pool is doomed

Tue, 12/06/2011 - 2:54am
CamBam. Says:

Yes, you understand! Haha that is exactly where we are headed, at least that's what I think.

Tue, 12/06/2011 - 4:40am

i agree, and i think we almost got it right during the 60s and 70s
the only problem is that they got carried away with the drug aspect, without understanding the side effects
so many of the thoughtful and creative hippies got burned out on drugs, their brains were permanently damaged and unable to make the change they all were fighting for
then a generation of kids were raised by crazy ass parents saying random stuff about mother nature and one love, while their kids just rolled their eyes at them and continued playing their video games
so the kids grow up believing in little to nothing, seeing a media filled with bull shit, and a world full of disaster
i know im generalizing, but on a mass scale something similar to this has happened
the next step will hopefully be an awakening of the masses
humans, and humans alone, control our future
mother nature might collapse if we don't support her, but we are the rulers of our own demise
we will either have a mass awakening, a mass revolution to live, or a great number of us might not make it through the hard times that may be at hand
the economy is nearing collapse, the environment is nearing collapse, society is nearing collapse...
we must wake up and make a change, or watch the world crumble around us

Tue, 12/06/2011 - 11:13am
pebbles Says:

Or maybe as our mind evolves and becomes more complex, our bodies deteriorate.. So we'll eventually become like those aliens in t.v. shows that are just a mind in a machine.. I mean look at Stephen Hawking thats basically what he is and he's one of the smartest humans we've ever come across.

Wed, 12/07/2011 - 6:41pm

it all has to do with which parts of our body we exercise
if we exercise our brains, we evolve them
if we exercise our bodies, they evolve too
so we should stay balanced in all aspects of our life so we evolve as well rounded human beings ;)

Tue, 12/06/2011 - 5:50am

i don't belive human life has any more of a value than animal life.

Tue, 12/06/2011 - 3:37pm
weed_tits Says:

not true...it's all about complexity. the most complex creatures with the most complex feelings of happiness, pain, suffering, well being, are the most valuable in that their rights should be the top priority. in our world, that's humans, but it also means that lions are more valuable than ants, although one day science may disprove this, it's unlikely.

Tue, 12/06/2011 - 3:40pm
weed_tits Says:

i dunno, smart people provide us with comedy, but what is usually the source of the comedy: stupid people. i think we completley underestimate the importance of comedy and laughter in our lives. if there were no stupid people a lot of comedy would be missing.

Tue, 12/06/2011 - 3:49pm
Tue, 12/06/2011 - 3:57pm
CamBam. Says:

Why are people comparing this to Hitler? Lol I never specified a certain group of people. I think "stupid people" is a general term and there are a lot of people that fall into that category. But I never attributed this stupidity to a race or religion of people.

Sat, 12/31/2011 - 9:10pm
Muncheels Says:

It's possible someone already said this but since i didnt read all of the comments im going to say this anyway. I can't remember where i saw this, but some people believe that no matter how advanced we become technologically we cant ascend to the next stage of humanity unless every person on the planet has the capability of destroying the earth and any given time. I'm incredibly baked and i can't quite put the importance of this into words but i think it fits well with your highdea